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03/22/2019 at 9:50 am #56682Carol Schuyler (SKY ler)Inactive Member
Members, this is Yossi. ~Carol
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04/09/2019 at 9:06 am #57150Carol Schuyler (SKY ler)Inactive Member
The photo is now of Julie-Belle; previously, there was one of Yossi.
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04/02/2019 at 5:12 pm #56882Angela CarterInactive Member
3/23/19: Julie-Bell tells me that she is a very happy kitty, content in her skin. She says she is an escape artist. She says life is amazing and that she feels lithe in her skin. She says “I am a dancer and I inspire dancers.” She says she loves playing with J.B., which is her initials, hmmm? I saw an image of a white dog or fluffy white stuffed animal, or maybe a sweet softy baby puppy? She says she watches over him. I see a blue white aura with platinum and silver, with specks of orange and pink. I felt drawn to her upper back and feet for some reason and will visit her again and offer healing. Last words, “Peak a boo one more thing … yes, I like being in the shadows.”
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04/03/2019 at 10:59 am #56926Carol Schuyler (SKY ler)Inactive Member
Hi Angela,
Thank you for contacting Julie-Belle. I’ll have to see if she can tell me what the experience was like for her.
One July weekend, I suddenly had the idea that I might adopt a third cat. I wasn’t planning to take any action, but I further wondered what I would call her (not that a male wasn’t also a possibility). Because I had seen stage productions of Romeo and Juliet and of Beauty and the Beast that week, the name Julie-Belle (yes, there’s an “e” ending her name) came to me. And on Monday, an adorable 4- to 6-month-old kitten came out from under a neighbor’s car to play with me. I gave her food and water, let her climb all over me and hoped she’d stay, but she went on her merry way. It wasn’t until two years later that I could adopt her (longish story).
While I sometimes write J.-B., I never call her that. I emphasize either the first or the third syllable or call her Julie Bellisima, Julie Bodacious Belle, Julie-licious, or Jules.
Is she an escape artist? We used to live in a nine-unit townhouse development shaped like a lightning streak; ours was #5 in the middle. It was set back enough from quiet enough streets (two entrances) that we could walk together down one end of the driveway to the mailbox and down the other end to the trash bucket pick-up. There was a time when I let the cats out semi-supervised, so often when I opened the front door, she’d run out. She let herself be caught easily. Once she ran up a tree higher than I think she was planning to go. Fortunately, she could be talked down and we arrived at the vet for her wellness appointment on time.
While Julie-Belle has matured and no longer “dances” all over me when I’m sitting up, maybe she can be said to do that when she or I or both of us are lying down.
In the current six-indoor-cat household, there is a fluffy, all-white cat, Lily-Grace who’s under ten pounds. She doesn’t have a special relationship with Julie-Belle, but they are compatible.
I’ll try to remember to check what colors I can observe around her.
Julie-Belle’s paws don’t seem problematic, but her back can be when she over-grooms herself and chews out her beautiful fur to the skin level. Then Val’s “patch” technique helps heal those areas. I don’t know what stresses Julie-Belle to cause that.
More than in the shadows, Julie-Belle tends to sit in sunny windows–or in any windows. Tables or counters provide access to all windows except for one bathroom, but she has been able to jump up to that window-sill, too.
Please let me know, if Julie-Belle tells you, why she sometimes chews out her fur, which has happened only in the past two years.
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04/09/2019 at 1:54 pm #57165Angela CarterInactive Member
Thanks for the scoop on Julie Belle. Yes I look forward to checking in with her again and asking about her “overgrooming” etc. 🙂
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04/09/2019 at 1:59 pm #57166Angela CarterInactive Member
Hmmm, just realized that I was communicating with the black cat (Yossi you mentioned). Confused, can you explain why that pic is up and different from the other pick on the main animal teacher page. Which picture is correct?? All my communication before was definitely with the black cat pictured above, so if you could give feedback on/apply my communication with Yossi? the all black cat that would be great.
And then yes I will also communicate with Julie Bell for the FIRST time in the next few days.
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04/09/2019 at 9:34 pm #57192Carol Schuyler (SKY ler)Inactive Member
Julie-Belle is the tuxedo cat. I submitted properly labeled photos, but the first time the photos were posted, Yossi’s photo went up with Julie-Belle’s name and Janie-Kate’s went up twice. When I resubmitted/forwarded the original email with photos of J-B and J-K, the cats were identified correctly on this website. Somehow, though, the Yossi photo as well as J-B’s photo shows up under J-B’s name.
Before the Saturday QA I’ll apply your J-B observations to Yossi where they fit very well!
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04/11/2019 at 7:14 pm #57228Angela CarterInactive Member
must be serendipity somehow! Yossi is in the spotlight! I am going to do a check in with Julie-Bell tuxedo kitty and then reread what you wrote about her…
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04/12/2019 at 2:29 pm #57240Carol Schuyler (SKY ler)Inactive Member
Hi again (finally!) Angela,
Good phrases to apply to Yossi: “content in her skin” and “lithe in her skin.” Before she became an indoor cat, she seemed comfortable (for most of the day) resting on the curved steps of the patio in front of the screened porch or in a branch of the ash tree overhanging the steps. As an indoor-only cat, she has seemed comfortable looking out on that same backyard from a table on the screened porch. That fine-boned body of hers (which a vet cautioned should never weigh over nine pounds–it hasn’t) scurries and jumps nimbly around the house and on the furniture. And sneaks up on and chases the other kitties.
You could also say, “content in her fur.” When I adopted her, her fur was so thin it looked painted on, and it felt like Brillo. Now she’s glossy Yossi with satiny fur an inch or longer.
Oh yes, she is an “escape artist.” Over a year ago, I was in the kitchen when I thought I heard her voice calling. How strange the steady calling and, when I looked, she wasn’t on the porch (into which the kitchen window looks). At last I checked on the open part of the patio and there she was–outside the porch! I opened the other patio door (which does not have the pet door that leads to the screened porch), and she raced inside. This sequence occurred a few times more that same day until I realized how she was getting out of the 6’x14′ porch: she jumped onto a screened panel, climbed it, and exited from the top where her weight had ripped away the screen from the panel. Then she jumped down from that height to the patio floor or, for variety, jumped to the screen panel over the breakfast nook and climbed or jumped down that to the patio floor.
No matter how often or how much or with what I retaped that screen panel, it drooped under her weight. No matter how often she sneaked out, she waited for me to open the door for her to come back in. These shenanigans stopped when a remodeler redid the screen panels. Sometimes I see Yossi climbing them or looking up to where she used to escape, but there’s no exit for her now.
Yesterday, her petsitter mentioned how she couldn’t be sure she saw Yossi during her first visits. She would simply feel a brushing by her legs. She said Yossi must have decided she was safe to be around because then there was no more hiding.
As for Yossi being a dancer, I agree that may be her self-image and that she may inspire or incite others to dance–or run. She moves speedily and gracefully. What a change from when she was outside starving (two male cats would chase her from the food I put out for her), scared (of those cats), and eventually pregnant (probably by them). Inside (after spaying and abortion), she became the (playfully) aggressive kitty.
Especially so with Julie-Belle–as you note. Somewhere when she was on her own, Julie-Belle learned to lay on her back and fight with her paws. She taught that to her kitten, Janie-Kate, who never seemed interested in play-fighting with her. Nor does the male cat, Raven. But Yossi eagerly learned and begs to engage, which J-B is happy to oblige. Yossi squeals and keeps begging for more. The fighting halts when I bring food from the kitchen to the dining table. Then J-B and Yossi jostle against each other in a race to the table.
Not fun for me: J-B has been pooing on the floor since two weeks after I adopted her, so that’s for twelve years. In the past few months, Yossi has decided to compete with her for the most and the latest turds. One morning, there were eight on the floor plus one in the hall outside the bath and one in the kitchen!
Yossi is “in the shadows” when she’s shielded inside the screened porch or because she has arranged the window-blinds in the second bedroom used as a storage room. There are tables to give access to the windows; she has bent and broken the blinds and pulled them away from the window sills to form a tent for herself.
There is a fluffy white cat in the house, Lily-Grace.
At this point, I’m not aware of any problems with her delicate little paws or her back. Please advise further if you get more information.
Yossi is a joy because she seems to enjoy life so much!
What an acute reading, Angela! ~Carol
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04/12/2019 at 7:18 pm #57268Angela CarterInactive Member
Thanks for all the feedback and info on your amazing cats. Comfortable in his fur, love it! The poop on the floor part, bummer. I have similar experience, but with pee, and seems to be only when something going on health wise, but not a chronic thing. I am trying something new today and yesterday at the library, where I pull up the photos and try my communication here; seems to work even though I’m surrounded by people and noises. I tuned in with JB and JK yesterday and it was very interesting … I am hoping to have time to type that out here in a while. If not, very soon! Have a great evening…
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04/13/2019 at 10:27 am #57278Carol Schuyler (SKY ler)Inactive Member
Angela, I forgot to mention in my previous post that after you and Yossi communicated, she seemed exceptionally lively and vibrant running to me as if she wanted to tell me something. I tried to be attentive but didn’t get her message. Of course, I wasn’t expecting her to be contacted. Maybe you spoke with her again, and she was again excited, but now I can’t distinguish the two events of my noticing.
If you contact her again, you might ask her or notice the following:
–What is she possessive about though she does share?
–Where and how does she sleep part of the night?
–What is her voice like (other than her high-pitched squeal when she’s playfighting with Julie-Belle who is quiet during the game)?
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04/15/2019 at 3:57 pm #57297Angela CarterInactive Member
Hi Carol I just tuned into YOSSI: I hear her voice as 3 blended sounds…a sweet soft little meow followed by a brief whisper /raspy pause and then a purr/soft growling sound. Like an owl where the sound is a bit extended and not just one short sound. If this is my imagination, well it sure is a fun imagining. How close did I get?! 🙂 I asked about how she sleeps and so far I got an image of her sleeping on your pillow above your head and legs around your head or up against the bed-frame. I asked about what she is possessive about but shares and I saw several different images. I am quite sure at least part of what I saw was just my own monkey mind! I saw a puppet/mobile with strings etc. I saw an asian hand fan which felt in reference to air, wind, sunlight, or other elements that she enjoys being exposed to (at the window or near a screen). I also saw a cave like cubby she hangs out in. I saw an image of her being possessive of your hand. I saw an abacus/counter, hmmm. And finally I saw a metal coiled object that retracts. I figured I’d share all these random images in case something was relevant!!
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04/15/2019 at 5:32 pm #57299Angela CarterInactive Member
JULIE BELL from 4/11/19: I SEE HER amazing mama energy, very sweet and receptive and nurturing. I feel her curious-self gazing into me as I connect. I see her walking on sand and unearthing a garden. I ask, What is your favorite way to be and relax? “On her lap and near my heart.” What is your favorite food Julie Bell? Wet food with meaty chunks. What is your favorite playtime activity? “Janie kate. And other cats. Sometimes I hiss. I like to control my fun time. I am mainly alone and with Janie.” I ask about her back/chewing. I got image of a carnation looking flower and wonder about flower essence for anxiety around itching…I will research and get back. I ask Julie bell if she has enough fun. I see an image of a her on a tight rope with one paw dipping in the water below. Hmm what does this mean Julie bell? “It means I am on edge and want to go all in but afraid.” All in? “I feel held back in my connections.” What connections? She then tells me that she is just trying to get me to see myself more clearly in this very moment and to inspire me to be more focused in my communication with her! I see for the second time, a granny laughing and I get shown that I either need to dive in deep or walk the tightrope, either or. she was really showing me some stuff about me and I think the granny laughing may have to do with ancestor work I am doing. I did ask Julie Bell how I can get more focused etc. “I have seen this indecision and procrastination in humans who otherwise are go-getters.” I thanked her sincerely for information and let her know that I would begin taking her advice right now. I then redirected the conversation back to her! I told her that her scratching grooming etc. felt obsessive and not healthy. “I itch and want to feel the root of it but never seem too. I feel a little held back, From fully relaxing. My bladder sometime hurts.” I asked, do you feel sad or anxious about something in particular? I got that sometimes she is bothered by another persons energy… JB feels anxious around him? or maybe carols daughter? I asked JB what this person does that makes her feel anxious? “Runs around and rants happy and manic like.” So feels like too much, JB? “Yes.” Can you go to a safe place instead of nonstop grooming, I ask. “Yes. But I feel unsure.” Even though I am unsure at this point about whether this is my imagining/monkey mind or if this is accurate, I proceed as if it is true … I said, “I would love for you to find a safe place out of the room and simply tune this person out b/c you do not need to process this for the household or for carol. i feel a protective energy around you Julie bell and a invite you to find a really safe cozy spot where you do not even need to participate, just tune out and relax. Know that you are safe and it is okay to hide.” I saw an image of her gently biting/nipping this person?? In regards to the safe space, I saw an image of under the bed pillow by nightstand on the right side, in far corner on the other side of the bed, in the bathtub of master bedroom, and behind a yellow and blue curtain. She says she feels somewhat okay in these spots but still a little on edge. She says she wishes the closet opened. I offered to JB, “next time you feel like chewing play with something instead and then go back to your own private space, and shift the energy. Just try it.” We enjoyed Reiki healing. I felt her become playful and a bit feisty or stressed, but also very interested. I saw a pink force around the area of her back that is problematic. I see her feeling the energy and I see a thread of imbalance shifting. I then ask JB “What is beneath the chewing JB?” I see some strange images at this point … baby in diaper with big silver pin/in baby crib with blue rails, I see JB giving a warning of some sort? I am not sure what the baby represents. I got from JB that she cannot control what is happening, that there is anger and frustration beneath the lack of control, and that beneath that is JOY. And beneath that is another layer of pain, misery, abandonment, and neglect. I asked more questions trying to understand these messages. Again, not sure of accuracy here, but really interesting what came up. I also saw an image of Hound dog during this part of the communication. I felt confused but in awe of the wisdom and compassion received from mama JB. I encouraged her to embody her purpose as harmony and joy and companionship, and to let go of holding this stress. JB asked me to go to JK for healing. I let her know that I would go to “see” JK now…
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04/15/2019 at 6:32 pm #57303Carol Schuyler (SKY ler)Inactive Member
Hi Angela,
I wrote a detailed reply to your observations about Yossi. When I prpressed the button to submit, the reply was deleted because the site said I wasn’t signed in! This was one of the few times I hadn’t done a “copy,” so this is going to be a briefer, curter reply.
Many accuracies.
One of Yossi’s voices is whispery/raspy; I call it her Jackie Kennedy Onassis voice. She uses it when I ask, e.g., if it’s time for food. When she was new here, she used it often when exploring the rooms; she was talking to herself and asking about the objects in them.
Yossi sleeps part of the night not around my head or against the futon frame but against my stomach or the backs of my legs.
After Yossi was spayed, I brought her to the room prepared for her: the second bedroom which is used as a storage room (mainly for books in crates). I left the pocket door (most of the interior doors are pocket-style) open about two inches, so that she and the four (at the time) other cats could communicate. The second day she managed to open the door a little wider to slither out, explore, and join the household.
The room was her introduction to the house, she as alone in it, and I think she still regards it as hers. When I go in, I soon hear paws quickly pattering to check out what I’m doing there.
There are three windows in there, so three sets of Venetian blinds she has bent or broken and pulled away from the window sill to make a cave or cubbie for herself. The metal coil (too lazy to go back to check exact phrases a second time!) you describe could apply to the blinds, and the mobiles on strings may be the cords with their plastic end pieces. Don’t know about the hand fan or abacus. Re my hand: Yossi sometimes awakens me at night and typically in the morning by putting her tiny face in the palm of my hand: she wants me to rub her face and then continue the rub to the top an down the back of her head.Yossi was excited at one point this afternoon–jumping on the bed where I was reading, dancing all over the bed, and putting her head in my hand. Maybe that was after you and she connected? Wish I had a connection to verify that. Congratulations on all the hits! ~Carol
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04/15/2019 at 7:05 pm #57304Carol Schuyler (SKY ler)Inactive Member
Hi Angela,
I can respond to some observations about Julie-Belle (her name ends in “e” like Belle in Beauty and the Beast; I don’t know how the misspelling slipped in when her photo was posted), but others I have to think about.
Absolutely, Julie-Belle is a most motherly cat. At the shelter where her kittens were born, she also nursed all the kittens who came in that spring. After she was spayed, she continued to groom them. Here, she grooms any cat who comes to her–and often gets groomed in return. Several years after I adopted J-B, the shelter manager said J-B was the best cat who had ever come through the shelter.
Julie-Belle may be closest with her daughter, Janie-Kate, but Raven-Raffaele is a close second. Definitely, he prefers her to the four other female cats. Lately, Shoshana, adopted in March 2018, is often cuddled up to her.
All the wet food is chunky. J-B, like the other cats, is a hearty eater. However, she often eats too much and too fast resulting in vomiting.
Unsure about the outside images because J-B is an indoor cat; about the lap and heart because she is not a lap cat; or about other people because I’ve always been the only human living in the house. If anyone is causing her stress, it’s me. And it’d be about her pooing outside the boxes–as she has done since August 2007. When repairmen come, she does greet them and allow them to pet her.
J-B does that OCD grooming on furniture in the middle of the living room and on a private space in the bedroom. (She has always been beyond meticulous in her grooming, but the digging deeply has been only for the last two years.) Except for the futon and tables under the three windows, there isn’t furniture there. But there are large lidded plastic tubs arranged in step fashion. On top of four stacked tubs, there’s a large kitty bed she often uses. On a tub beside the futon (like a night table), there’s a blanket where she has slept often this year. The four walk-in closet doors in both bedrooms are always open.
Thank you for connecting with Julie-Belle. I’ll think more later about your other observations. ~Carol
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10/11/2019 at 11:25 am #65042Martha BreedingPlatinum Member
Hi Carol,
I’m connecting with Yossi as I write this. I introduced myself to Yossi and asked if she would like to connect. She said she would and that she had lots to share with me.I get that Yossi is sleek, slinky, dainty yet strong, and mysterious.
She said she’s super sweet and lovable, but at times like to keep her distance. She said she loves to play and when she plays she can be a bit of a nibbler and kicker with the back legs.
She said to play and have fun and that’s what life’s about.
Yossi said she likes having her sanctuary and I got the impression that there is a white table and elegant lace.
Yossi also sent me an image of a kitty bed and said that’s her bed.
Yossi said she likes canned food, too.
I thanked her for talking with me, she rubbed my chin affectionately and I’m getting she purred, and told her to have a wonderful weekend. She thanked me and wished me the same. Yossi then sent me an image of her from behind wiggling her butt and scooting playfully with a laser toy or something. Love to Yossi!
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10/11/2019 at 12:34 pm #65047Carol Schuyler (SKY ler)Inactive Member
Hi Martha,
You and Yossi had a good conversation! By the way, “Yossi” is a male name because I thought the kitten I brought to the ABC (Animal Birth Control) was male. But when I picked “him” up at the end of the day, I was told about “her” spaying and abortion. We dodged a bullet by my getting her to be fixed in time! I’ve since extended her name: Yossie Yael.
Yes, she is sleek, slinky, dainty, and strong in the sense of healthy. When I brought her to the regular vet (she was at the ABC for neutering because of being a TNR [Trap-Neuter-Release] as I thought at the time), he said she was fine-boned and as an adult should weigh under nine pounds, which she is. She prefers canned food to dry. Her fur, which had been like Brillo, became like velvet. Mysterious? I think so, too, so one of her nicknames is “Little Egypt.”
Yossie Yael is playful, sweet, and affectionate with other cats and with me. Another nickname is “Bossy Yossi” because she demands attention from us. She sometimes nibbles gently. While she doesn’t kick with her back legs, I have to be wary of her presence when standing and moving because she rubs against my back legs and once (early days) caused me to lose my balance.
I don’t know whether it’s playful or territorial that she paws the picture-window when the feral, outside cat (Rosalie the Lorelei) sits or walks on the ledge outside the window.
Yes, Yossie-Yael needs her private time in her sanctuary. When she came home after her ABC surgery, she stayed in what is a large second bedroom used as a storage room. She has continued to think of that as her own space. Mostly there are crates of books, but there are also tables (black fold-out) against the front and side windows. She has moved the Venetian blinds away from the side window so that is a hidey-place.
There’s no lace here, but maybe the white table could be the three, 6-foot, light gray fold-out tables that form an “L” against the living room picture window and the large side window.
There are several kitty beds in the house and on the screened porch. This week, I added a corrugated cardboard bed with catnip that she and Raven-Raffaele have been sharing (alone and together). She used to sleep with me until I started closing the bedroom door to be by myself. Lately, she’s been spending the night on a heavy corrugated cardboard piece that slopes in the middle and is against a strip of wavy glass bordering the front door.
I’ve forgotten where the laser pointer is and don’t think I’ve used it in this house (should find it). Yossie is a merry sprite who finds ways to play with anything. This week, she’s been in a pile of plastic air pillows from Amazon boxes.
And, oh yes, she does wiggle her skinny little butt. It was disconcerting to me when she was a kitten until I read that kittens present their butts to their mothers to be licked clean. The article suggested that gently blowing at the anus will satisfy instead.
I’m glad for your cheery, accurate chat.
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