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02/22/2019 at 8:01 pm #55948ModeratorModerator
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02/24/2019 at 11:07 am #55959SHARON BLACKBURNSilver Member
Hello Rosemary. Thank you for sharing Elsa with us to be an animal teacher. I connected with her today.
My general impression of her is that she is very vibrant, healthy and loving. She likes belly rubs. and is very soulful and deep. Maybe an old soul.
I introduced myself, and asked if we could talk.
E: Sure OK.
Me: I’d like to learn more about you.
E: OK
Me: What do you like to do?
E: I like to roll around on my back, I like to play and run. I like to be nosy. I like to hunt out my human.
Me: How interesting. What would you like to share with me and Rosemary?
E: She’s awesome and I love her. She takes good care of me. I like being pet, and I like when we can just lay around together.
Me: Sounds like she is a great companion to you. What do you think of us humans?
E: I believe most are kind and good.
Me: How long have you been with Rosemary?
E: Since I was a puppy.
Me: and, how old are you now?
E: I’m 8, but don’t feel that old.
Me: Awesome! What would you like to share with me?
E: I’m a happy dog! I like to go on walks. Be patient with yourself and your learning of AC. You got this!
Me: Thank you Elsa! Can you tell me about where you live?
E: I have my own bed and have freedom to be a dog. I have a yard and whole house. I love the smells when my human cooks. I like seeing the neighbor dog. I like being in the sun.
Me: That sounds like a great life.
E: I think so!
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02/25/2019 at 5:46 am #55969Rosemary MPlatinum Member
Sharon, thank you soooooo much for chatting with Elsa. I think you really have her idiom – I struggle to hear her but when I do this short reply and the “sure” seems to be the way communicates. Almost everything is perfectly right. I think the thing about the smells when I cook is interesting – she does come and hang out in the kitchen whenever I’m cooking. When we have time, we do just enjoy lying next to each other. She loves to lie in the sun. We have a few dogs on our rounds and in our row of houses and she likes to say hi briefly. She is definitely still just as energetic as when she was a young pup and a very vibrant and happy dog – I don’t think we’ll ever get to the point where she “settles down”! She’s actually six but I don’t think you’re wrong with the 8. Strange as it sounds – it feels right. I’m not sure why: I think t’s either something to do with even numbers or that 8 is the maturity level she will reach and will sort of stay there. I don’t think I’m expressing that very well but it’s an intuitive feeling. And yes – she is an old soul – here to help me out! One of her favourite games is finding the human hiding! She loves to leap around till she finds us!
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02/25/2019 at 6:44 pm #55987SHARON BLACKBURNSilver Member
Thanks so, so much for your feedback. I truly appreciate it. The feedback helps so much. Have a great night!
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03/03/2019 at 4:51 pm #56134Angela CarterInactive Member
3/2/19 Hello Rosemary. I got that she likes to be in the car, likes to nap, likes to play when she’s not napping, and can sometimes be the boss (not in a bossy way!) of other dogs. Does she like to play with other dogs, but hangs back just a bit at times to observe? She says she can cure depression through witnessing, holding space, and being joyful. Does she like to play with sticks?She is a companion for old and young and focuses on the happy side of life. She says she likes to swim and splash. She feels that she can also be good at protecting kids and looking after other animals. I also saw an image of a whale when gazing at her picture, like she carries alot of wisdom and uses sound in some way to share this.
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03/04/2019 at 9:41 am #56140Rosemary MPlatinum Member
Hi Angela,
Thank you for talking to Elsa – I get so excited!
Yes – she does like the car. She’s used to travelling in it and seems to find it interesting because she likes looking out the window and barking at Hi Vis vests and white vans. She is completely bossy of other dogs – no question about it. She always has to be top dog. She’s very selective about who she plays with – generally she likes to have a look (so that fits with hanging back) sniff, say hello and then does her own thing. Sometimes she’ll play depending on the dog.
She likes to chase balls and tries to get me to throw sticks but I don’t because I don’t want her to hurt herself.
She loves to have a dip – a swim and a splash – even when it’s snowing. We live near a river so it’s part of her routine.It’s interesting that she says she can cure depression through holding the space and being joyful. She really is a joyful dog – people always comment on how happy she is, even people who don’t take much notice of animals. And depression has been a big bugbear for me in the past. She has really enabled me to develop a steadiness of emotion so I can build my life without being so swayed by emotion. That really has been down to her.
We don’t hang out with kids much, but when we do, she is very patient and gentle. I can see that that would be part of her talents. I’ll see what I can do to find her a job there!
The whale image is interesting – I feel she has a lot of wisdom and she certainly seems to act as though she understands a lot about life. She barks her communications – and has a wide range of bark. I’m going to look up whales!
Thanks again, Rosemary
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03/05/2019 at 5:06 pm #56191Angela CarterInactive Member
Thanks for the feedback Rosemary
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01/01/2020 at 1:10 am #69661Jo BlankenshipInactive Member
Hi Rosemary, I saw your post about Elsa in the forum for Q & A call later this month. I just had to reach out and see if Elsa might tell me what is going on. When I connected with her she told me she was ok now. I wasn’t sure if that was “ ok at the moment” or “ok, I am fine now”. When I asked was wrong when she was crying and not eating , she just held up her paw.
I offered her healing for whatever is or might have been going on and she accepted. I used a healing technique I learned in the advanced course and a also one we learned in Masterclass. Hopefully by this time, Elsa is already better.-
02/19/2021 at 6:46 am #82847Rosemary MPlatinum Member
Hi Jo,
I’ve just seen your post from just over a year ago!!! I’m so sorry – but I would like to say thank you so much. My gorgeous woman dog (she doesn’t like being called a girl) has had such trouble with her joints – she has lost all the cartilage in her front leg so it does get sore. Thank you for your healing.
Rosemary x
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02/18/2021 at 11:46 pm #82845Betty ShawInactive Member
2/18/2021
Hello Rosemary, I spoke with Elsa a couple of days ago. I’m so new I don’t have a really good grasp on the navigation of this web site yet. This is the second connection I have made. I am sure there will be plenty of errors and things that I creatively made up. This is what I thought our conversation was.
Me: Elsa my name is Betty and communicating with animals is very new to me. If I am not interrupting anything would it be ok to talk to you?
Elsa: Yes.
Me: What is your favorite thing to do?
Elsa: Get tummy rubs and loves.
Me: What do you like to do?
Elsa: Play with a ball.
Me: Do you have a yard to play in?
Elsa: Yes
Me: What do you like to do best in the yard?
Elsa: Play ball and sniff.
Me: Do You have wild animals visit?
Elsa: Yes.
Me: Do you know who they are?
Elsa: Racoon and some mice.
Me: Do you live in the country or the city?
Elsa: In the country.
Me: Then you must have other wild life come to visit?
Elsa: Yes they do. We don’t bother each other.
Me: What is your favorite thing to eat?
Elsa Chicken.
Me: Thank you for talking to me Elsa, can I talk to you again sometime?
Elsa: You’re welcome and yes.Rosemary, Elsa is an in incredibly beautiful puppy. Thank you for sharing her with me. I need better questions to draw her out as she was content with yes or no. She is was also somewhat lade back and not in any hurry. She was also a very sweet girl.
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02/19/2021 at 6:55 am #82849Rosemary MPlatinum Member
Hello Betty,
Thank you so much for talking with Elsa – I get so excited!
So here’s some feedback:
She does like loves, especially in the morning, but prefers her neck to her tummy.
Her favourite thing is definitely to play with a ball! Unfortunately she isn’t allowed to because she has joint and bone problems 🙁
Yes she has a yard – and yes she likes to play and sniff.
We do live in the country-ish, but we are surrounded by green fields and river. We are in the UK, so no raccoons but we do get mice, hedgehogs, frogs, deer.
Yes she loves chicken – especially roast chicken.
And Yes! She is totally Yes/No – very literal! She definitely needs prodding into giving more. (You could ask her why that is too)
It would be great if you could ask her stuff like:
What do you think of humans?
What do you think of TV?
What does she think about cats?
Some dogs bother her, others don’t so it would be interesting to ask her about why she ignores some and growls at others.
If you want more confirmation questions:
Where do you sleep?
What’s going on with stairs in the house?
What’s your favourite kind of weather?
Let me know if you need more.Thank you again Betty – so excited to hear you’ve been talking to her.
Rosemary x
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02/19/2021 at 2:11 pm #82857Betty ShawInactive Member
Rosemary, thank you for your helpful reply. I was disconnected twice while visiting with Elsa. Obviously I am new and can’t tell truth from fiction yet. Pistol the the monthly teacher helped me with that. I would love to try and communicate with Elsa again using some of your suggested questions. When I discover I have made a connection my brain goes dead so maybe writing them down would help that. Not very spontaneous though. How long with practice does it take to feel solid in a communication? Thank you again for responding to my communication.
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02/21/2021 at 5:03 am #82871Rosemary MPlatinum Member
Hi Betty,
I think you got a whole load of accurate stuff with Elsa – definitely not coincidences or lucky guesses because you picked up her way of communicating which can be quite short and literal. I do write my questions down first – but as soon as I open my eyes to look at them I get distracted. It does seem to help me remember to ask them. The other thing I’m beginning to remember to do is Val’s suggestions of asking: Can you tell me more about that?.
I’m really not the best person to give advice on AC – I’m not very good at it. What I can tell you is that Val’s advice always turns out to be spot on! I found that doing a daily meditation that takes me to my heart has really helped me connect more quickly. As soon as I stop doing that I struggle again. Also: practice, practice, practice! I thought I wasn’t getting anything until I had a 15 minute session with VAl, who pointed out what I was getting. I was just dismissing it! I was getting lots of pictures. There are other students who are much better than me – but maybe post your questions for the monthly Q&A because I’d love to know the answers too – and I’m sure I’m not alone. I do have one quality going for me though – I persevere, even if very slowly! I think the animals are worth it. I do it because I think all humans need to be able to do this. It doesn’t seem right to me that we don’t bother to learn the language of the planet we live on. One day I’m gonna be so good at this – I just hope it doesn’t take me so long that it’s in my next lifetime!
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02/21/2021 at 3:26 pm #82876Betty ShawInactive Member
Hi Rosemary,
You make me feel inspired to keep trying. Thank you for another reply, you have echoed some of my own feelings. Everyone appears to be so experienced it does feel very intimidating. I too feel like I may not live long enough to learn the language since I am already old.I have decided it is best for me to not read what others have learned from their experience with an animal so I am not influenced by that. I have only connected with two animals as yet and I think that has been a good decision. Both have been really sweet to me.
Thank you for sharing with me everything makes a difference.
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03/06/2021 at 11:37 pm #83070Betty ShawInactive Member
Hi Rosemary, I want to try this again with Elsa. I still feel I’m not really getting it. I have tried connecting with Elsa again to see if I can ask better questions using your suggestions. I was hearing a young girls sweet voice this time. This is what I received:
me: Hello Elsa do you remember me? I’m Betty and spoke to you a couple weeks ago. Would you have time to talk to me tonight?
Elsa: Yes, I remember you.
Me: Can I ask what you think of human’s?
Elsa: I think they are smart with human stuff but with dog stuff not so much.
Me: Why do you think that?
Elsa: Human’s tend to ignore us and not talk to us.
Me: Well then what do you think of other dogs?
Elsa: I do like other dogs and some want to be friendly with me but their human tells them no. Some dogs tell me right away no go away.
Me: Does that make you feel sad?
Elsa: Yes
Me: I’m sorry Elsa. So, how do you feel about cats?
Elsa: They are very different from me and not very friendly. They play different then I do and they smell funny to me.
Me: Is there something different about the stairs in your house?
Elsa: Yes they are steep and scary.
Me: Do you sleep up those stairs? If so where?
Elsa: Yes, I sleep In mom’s room. I have my own bed.
Thank you Elsa for talking to me. You are very sweet. Thank you Rosemary for helping me again. Betty -
03/07/2021 at 4:29 am #83071Rosemary MPlatinum Member
Hi Betty,
Thank you again for talking to Elsa. BEfore I feedback I just want to say that you have inspired me to practice more and not be so worried about trying to get it all right – just to have a go! So since your first talk with Elsa, I’ve galvanized myself and I’ve been practising a lot more! Thank you.Feedback:
Yes- I think that is EXACTLY what Elsa thinks of humans. She has a very particular character and so many humans around just don’t get her. I’m learning more and more about her personality as the years go by – she really does help me learn to pay attention and is opening whole new worlds for me that way.
Yes Elsa does like to talk to other dogs and gets annoyed when humans pull them away or won’t let them stop and sniff.Yes – she definitely finds cats curious. She loves the chase them and then doesn’t know what to do when they come face to face.
Yes – the stairs are steep. Elsa has arthritis so they are a bit of challenge. I don’t let her walk down – I carry her so ease the jolting on her joints, but she comes up alone slowly.
Yes – she sleeps in my room. She does have her own bed but since she had an operation she sleeps on my bed so I can make sure she doesn’t jump up on to it in the night.
She is really monosyllabic and I think that’s part of her very doggy nature.
If you want to carry on here are some suggestions that I’d love to know more about. (I really struggle to hear her, but when Val asked her about it, she said I heard her just fine. She just wasn’t always saying much.)I think she might be a perfect candidate to practice Val’s technique of questioning: Can you tell me more about that? What does that feel like? How does that affect you/others?
How does she feel about being a dog? What does she like specifically?
How does she feel after her operation? Would she like to tell more about that?
Where does she prefer to walk?
When does she prefer to walk?
What is her favourite weather?Thank you again, and for being so inspiring!
Rosemary (and a grunt from Elsa!) x -
03/07/2021 at 2:54 pm #83081Betty ShawInactive Member
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Rosemary, Thank you for your reply. You are so prompt. That was a very difficult summary to send to you. I thought it was my creative mind at work. I couldn’t feel the connection with Elsa. I would ask the question and write whatever first came to mind. Like Val says to do. Then I wasn’t going to send it and feel really stupid. In the long run of things I finally decided good, bad and the ugly it is all part of this process, so I’m going to send it. I am just floored by how much you were able to capture saying that is Elsa. I love you. You have caused me to rethink this communication thing and keep going. It changes it’s look and feel frequently. Now I know what Val means when she said you have to keep and open mind. One of the frustrations I feel is not having an instructor to talk you through the unknown parts of this as they relate to me. I don’t know how I managed to inspire anyone with all of my insecurities in doing this. Thank you though for the very nice compliment. You have helped me so much with all of your instruction and being able to see what I can’t. I will get better with the questions when I stop worrying about weather I am getting what the animal really is saying. I am willing to try this again with Elsa if there are particular questions you would like me to ask her other than those you have posted. Oh my goodness you have made my day.
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04/16/2021 at 5:17 pm #83554Betty ShawInactive Member
Rosemary, I want to accept you as a friend but I don’t know how to do that. I would love to get to know you better. You are so humble and give such good readings. How is Elsa doing, her leg pain?? I love her straight forward and to the point answers. My best to you Betty. ( know this isn’t the right forum to send messages but I don’t know how to do that either. Pathetic right.)
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04/18/2021 at 6:31 am #83577Rosemary MPlatinum Member
I hopeyou get this BEtty! I’m not too good on the tech side either! I just wanted to say: I saw your accountability post. I recognised those feelings of just feeling like you can’t do it! I guess I wanted to say: don’t get swayed by those feelings. Even if I feel like that, I can see that I am getting better! What you’re so good at is practising regularly and that’s what you have inspired me to do. Lets keep going! x
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11/18/2021 at 10:56 pm #85971Wolfie Tschida MyrvalderInactive Member
Hi Elsa snd Rosemary!
E: Life is a precious thing and shouldn’t be taken to seriously. It’s important to have fun, to be fun and to look for fun. If we don’t have fun we will age faster.
Thanks Elsa 🙏🏻💓💓💓 -
11/22/2021 at 10:24 am #86028Rosemary MPlatinum Member
Hi Wolfie,
Thank you so much for taking the time to talk to Elsa. It definitely sounds like her voice – she loves to chase balls, swim and chase squirrels! Lets remember to have fun! Thank you again, Rosemary xxx -
04/25/2023 at 3:08 pm #92049Terrianne McGrathPlatinum Member
Today I connected with Elsa. I introduced myself and asked Elsa if she would be interested in talking to me. She said “Yes, this should be fun!”. I warned her I was new to this so she will have to have patience with me.
(T). Let me ask you…What did you like most about being a FAT?
(E) It felt like I had company. I felt that I helped people. I felt that I was good at it.I get the sense that you are a quiet girl. You like to observe things. You love to be your family. You don’t bark a lot. You like to be near your family. You’re not underfoot. You follow your Mom around. You go off to the side and lay down while keeping an eye on your Mom. Just like my dogs, when I am moving around a lot from one room to another, you lay in the hallway so you can see her coming and going.
You like being outside. You have a backyard but you don’t really run around. You don’t like being outside by yourself. You won’t cry but you don’t like it. You like being outside with your family. You’re soft and gentle in nature. A little on the shy side. You’re a very good door greeter. You’re not overwhelming. If it is someone you really like, your front feet may come off the ground a few inches but you don’t jump on people. You’re well behaved. You have a special bed next to a fireplace in a main gathering spot in the house.
(T) Is there any advice you would like to give me or is there anything you would like me to tell your Mom? It’s been a while since you have been FAT.
(E) I would like to go on more car rides.
(T) That’s it? Nothing else? Physically you’re fine?
(E) Showed me a picture of food bowls next to each other. One set is raised and one set is on the floor. I’m not sure if that makes any sense to you or not.
I thanked Elsa for talking with me. She is such a sweet soul.
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04/26/2023 at 5:33 am #92052Rosemary MPlatinum Member
Hello Terrianne,
Thank you so much for this!!!! I love to hear what she has to say.
Here is some feedback:(T). Let me ask you…What did you like most about being a FAT?
(E) It felt like I had company. I felt that I helped people. I felt that I was good at it.R: She definitely thinks she is good at helping people learn this – she has said it before and she loves helping people.
I get the sense that you are a quiet girl. You like to observe things. You love to be your family. You don’t bark a lot. You like to be near your family. You’re not underfoot. You follow your Mom around. You go off to the side and lay down while keeping an eye on your Mom. Just like my dogs, when I am moving around a lot from one room to another, you lay in the hallway so you can see her coming and going.
R: This is interesting. She can be very quiet for long periods. She does lie and observe. When I’m working at home, taht is eactly what she does – lies to the side and keeps an eye on me. If I’m moving around a lot, she chooses a space where she can follow things – sometimes the hallway. I’ll talk about the barking later.
You like being outside. You have a backyard but you don’t really run around. You don’t like being outside by yourself. You won’t cry but you don’t like it. You like being outside with your family. You’re soft and gentle in nature. A little on the shy side. You’re a very good door greeter. You’re not overwhelming. If it is someone you really like, your front feet may come off the ground a few inches but you don’t jump on people. You’re well behaved. You have a special bed next to a fireplace in a main gathering spot in the house.
R:Totally accurate! She doesn’t like to go out the back on her own. She never complains about having to do difficult things. She absolutely loves it when we all go out together – it’s her happy place. She has a very soft and gentle side and can be quite quiet and still.
R: Here’s the interesting bit. You’re right – she is a good door greeter – but in her opinion from a dog perspective. She sees that as one of her main jobs and takes great pride in it. But humans find it overwhelming when she does it. She doesn’t jump. And what is interesting is that I can tell she thinks she is doing a great job and takes a lot of pride in being good – which is why she won’t change.
Yes she has a special bed next to the fireplace in the main gathering spot – a kitchen/dining area.(T) Is there any advice you would like to give me or is there anything you would like me to tell your Mom? It’s been a while since you have been FAT.
(E) I would like to go on more car rides.
R: Yes – she likes going in the car. And yes we can do more!
(T) That’s it? Nothing else? Physically you’re fine?
(E) Showed me a picture of food bowls next to each other. One set is raised and one set is on the floor. I’m not sure if that makes any sense to you or not.
R: She has two raised bowls: food and water. I think the food on the floor is when she gets ‘pudding’ – crunchy treats that she goes off and eats on the floor.
I thanked Elsa for talking with me. She is such a sweet soul.
R: So Accurate! That’s amazing! Thank you so much, Rosemary x
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04/26/2023 at 4:04 pm #92058Terrianne McGrathPlatinum Member
Hi Rosemary. Thank you so much for your feedback! I am so happy that I did get most things correct! This definitely gives me confidence in moving forward. Elsa is such a sweet soul. Terrianne
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04/26/2023 at 7:08 pm #92059Terrianne McGrathPlatinum Member
Hi again. I’m sure I should have quit when I was ahead but… I talked again with Elsa regarding her awesome greeting skills. I saw her squeezing to get in front of whoever opens the door to start her “job”. I told her how awesome she is at her job but sometimes when she pushes forward to start her greetings, it sometimes scares some of the visitors. I challenged her to go from an awesome greeter to a phenomenal greeter a level that not many greeters can achieve.
To get to a phenomenal greeter level she should do two things:
1. Sit back a few feet from the door and let the visitor actually enter the home before her greetings begin.
2. If she feels a guest is tense, (uncomfortable or scared) she needs to lower her own energy in an attempt to make them feel more relaxed.
At first she wasn’t listening but then when as I was explaining the why’s, her interest peaked a little. Waiting to greet visitors 3 feet inside the home will make it a smoother transition for people to come into the home without worrying if Elsa would get out or scare someone who isn’t familiar with dogs. Lowering her body’s energy to calm an anxious guest when greeting is a huge and difficult skill to learn.
She listened to what I had to say and would like to improve her already amazing greeting skills but she wasn’t sure if it was worth it because she sees the changes benefiting the visitors more than benefiting her. IF she does however make a positive change in her greetings, then I said you would make her a steak! 😘
🤷♀️ Not really expecting a behavioral change but it didn’t hurt to try. Now she is aware that sometimes her heightened energy can be a lot for some guest. ❤️
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05/01/2023 at 10:37 am #92094Rosemary MPlatinum Member
Firstly that is exactly what she does. In the Uk, we mostly live in small old houses. We have a narrow corridor leading to the front door and she always squeezes past people’s legs to get to the door.
Yes I absolutely will make her a steak if she does that ! I will remind her. I really like the way you framed it for her – to make her an even better greeter. We haven’t had any visitors since you talked to her, but I am keeping an eye on it. I will also reinforce this message. The way she reacted and thought about it resonates – that is the way she would react to stuff.
Well done! And Thank you so much,
Rosemary x
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